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Getting ready for Stoke – the land that football forgot

This was supposed to be a preview of sorts of our trip to the land that football forgot but first, I must go off on a tangent and <rant> Today I made the mistake of wondering had Santi Cazorla cost Arsenal £32.5m like the amount that Chelsea paid for Hazard, would we see a collective press drool fest like we have over Hazard? That’s all I wondered. Of course, people wasted no time in taking offence, assuming that I was criticising Hazard (I wasn’t) and pointing out  his five assists in two games.  Good for him, but my point wasn’t really about him at all.  At the time I didn’t have the stat to hand that Cazorla had created seven goal scoring opportunities on the opening day of the season, more than any other player in the league, and he can hardly be held responsible for the failure of the rest of the team to convert these to assists. My point had merely been how people tend to think that to get a quality player you have to pay a ‘quality price.’

The source of this debate had come about after Arsene had said that he was looking to buy ‘special players’ and a few people said, to paraphrase, that he needed to stop being stingy and pay ‘special prices,’ but that’s not how it works in football. Not any more.  Can you sit there and tell me that that Podolski is not as good as Andy Carroll because he cost less than 50% of the Englishman’s price?  Too many people think that a ‘big’ signing should come with a ‘big’ price but a look at some of the biggest names to come through Arsenal in recent years shows that this is simply not the case.

Granted, I am aware that we sometimes don’t go that extra mile to get the players we want and Wenger can be too strict on his ‘my price or no deal’ policy, but the belief that a player is only as good as his price tag is laughable, now more than ever in an over-inflated market.

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So. Stoke at the weekend and we will be without Koscielny who has still not recovered from his calf injury which kept him out of the opening day’s match.  That gives The BFG a chance to line up against Mordor’s finest, something he missed out on last year because of his own injury. Speaking to Arsenal.com, Per said

I didn’t go to Stoke last year because of my injury so this is a completely new experience for me as well. I hope to adapt quickly to Stoke and the situation and the way they play.

We have to switch on quickly and do the right thing. We have done a lot of things [in training] concerning set pieces, throw-ins and crosses.

We have to cover each other even more than the other games because they are very dangerous players, especially up front, and very tall players. Maybe we have to behave differently but we always want to show our own qualities.

I played against him [Crouch] at Wembley so it is not a new situation. When you look at Sunderland and Sessegnon and then one week later you play against Peter Crouch, it’s weird but you have to deal with this.

It’s good to hear that they have been practicing defending set-pieces because in 2011/12 Stoke scored more from set-pieces than any other team (58% of their goals came via this route). They can’t play football remember? Six of the nine goals we have conceded at the Britannia have come from a set-piece.  Warning indeed.

We know exactly what we are going to get up there and since they returned to the Premier League in 2008 we have travelled to the Britannia on five occasions in all competitions and have only managed to win once (three defeats, one draw).

Wenger loves his stats and he should be aware that Stoke have managed to get on the scoresheet first in all five of those games and in four them the goals came within the first 11 minutes. We need to be awake from kick-off, of that there is no doubt. There is no time when facing Stoke at home to ‘get in to the game.’ To them, this is some sort of cup final and they will be ready for it.

As if our record in Stoke is not bad enough they are currently unbeaten at home in their last seven matches, although they’ve drawn the last three, the first of those draws being the 1-1 result we managed to get the last time we travelled through time to the land of the orcs.

I hate Stoke. I do. I can find no features about them that make them even slightly less detestable. They boo a player for having his leg broken and daring to be annoyed about that. Their manager sees nothing wrong in being nasty about our manager but yet their fans have a pink fit should Wenger dare mention them. They have no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

I suppose the only good thing is that we are getting this game out of the way now and then we can forget about having to travel to that shit hole for another year (or longer if the football gods finally see sense and send them down).

 

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  • Mart

    Was on the same wave length earlier when hearing ( ok the rumours ) of what liverpool were likely to pay for a loan siging. Fabregas, Anelka, Song, Van Persie and Freddie to name but a few “cheap” signings that people would now regard as quality. Cazorla is value, and in a few weeks people will have wished their club noticed. Stoke will be a test, but maybe comes at a good time to toughen up our squad for the winter ahead, rather this fixture now than on a december snowy night.

  • JackFact

    Stoke City… What can be said about this abhorrent little club, the toilet of the Premier League, the epitome of everything that is wrong with English football from yester-year, painfully sad that they exist today, with a dinosaur manager so out of touch with the modern game he makes Harry Bassett’s Wimbledon look like Pep Guardiola’s Barcelona.
    They are a repellent club with equally obnoxious brain-dead fans. No doubt Ramsey will subjected to the repulsive boos of last year, and Wenger with the kind of obscenities that should be prosecuted but never are.
    This season however we go there with a team that will out-pass and outclass them and it will be a pleasure to take the 3 points from these knuckle-dragging troglodytes and know we don’t have to go back to their toilet club for the rest of the season. We can only pray we won’t sustain any injuries from their Rugby long-ball abysmal-excuse-for-football they con money out of people to watch. The sooner Pulis and his army of thugs disappear to where they belong (under a rock or the lower divisions) the better!
    Time to take out the Trash!

    • anothab

      Suck your Mum JackOpinion you weapon.

      • Pulis Ponce

        go back to your slum Potter bumboy

    • stoke bloke

      arsenal, the arse of the premier league

    • stokey789

      all well and good saying this behind your computer screen, you southern poofter :D

  • anothab

    *LadyTalkingOutHerArse

  • anothab

    *JackOpinion can go suck their Mum too.

  • anothab

    *LadyTalkingOutHerArse

    • Bless The Mongrel anothab

      anothab – you clearly are incapable of spelling or any articulate opinion so on behalf of everywhere, please go back to your cave and hope one day you find out who your dad was.

  • anothab

    Haha, some bellends can’t accept a bit of criticism whilst they wildly throw around inaccurate metaphors and adjectives so they simply delete the comments!

    • ladyarse

      None of your comments have been deleted. And for the record, your comments aren’t ‘criticism’ they are indicative of a person who isn’t capable of engaging in a critical debate, or, as it’s known around here, ‘someone from Stoke.’ Troll has never been more apt than when it comes to you lot.

      • PERICARD

        big chip on your shoulders – sorry we dont lie down and let you take 3 points – pulis not the one who moans and groans everytime we play funny how the moaning is only when you lose – as for slating the people of stoke well that sums it up really whats that got to do with the football

      • Warbo

        Here we go silly cockneys writing crap again let’s all roll over and have our bellys tickled by the sourthern softies I don’t think so welcome to stoke on Trent the home of a proper football team not a breeding ground for the top clubs tossers.

    • Bang

      You wouldn’t know what a metaphor was if it came out your mama’s ass, Oedipus.

  • Tristan

    Am I the only person who now despises Stoke more then spuds? Sure the spuds are spuds but at least they play football!

    • stokey789

      uhh lovely yet another person obbsessed with stoke

  • Steve the shu

    The land of modor is waiting to march all over your ” middle earth mediocrity ” we may not be full of glory hunters or superstars but we play to our strengths….. and you Will need all the help from your old wizard you can get… stoke and proud !

    • ladyarse

      Arsenal is hardly full of either gloryhunters or superstars…but thank you for a comment that wasn’t abusive. Opposition fans are always welcome here for a good debate/bit of banter :)

      • Steve the shu

        No matter the result,arsenal won’t likeplaying at the brit … We can’t out pass the gunners, so why bother tryin! a score draw Will do for me …. anything else is a bonus from a top 4 side… but if any of your lads are going please ask them for the occasional song.. lol

  • so cal stokies

    bitchass scfc forever

    • http://twitter.com/Gooner_Nate Gooner Nate

      shouldnt that be SCRC?

  • Knypethestokie

    Lmfao, deluded cockney arrogant tippy tippy wankers… Welcome to Stoke on Sunday hope you really don’t enjoy it……pathetic and stereotypical write up…..and the booing happens to most players and not just Aaron Ramsey, he and you cretins created the bad blood after the unfortunate incident butit will never be forgotten.

  • Guest

    Ha ha ha where is the free speech in this world when you put a blog on the Internet and then delete the replies? Delued tippy tippy cockney wankers….. Hope you don’t enjoy your trip on Sunday….

    • ladyarse

      Are all you lot from Stoke paranoid? Firstly I didn’t delete anything and secondly, freedom of speech doesn’t apply when you come on to someone else’s blog, they can delete what they want. If you want freedom of speech, start your own blog.

      For the record though, I rarely delete comments. Not even ones as idiotic as yours.

      • Knypethestokie

        But even if it’s your blog you have stopped freedom of speech after a truly woeful attempt to belittle a team who in your opinion is not worthy…lmao. Grow up.

        • ladyarse

          I have stopped freedom of speech by offering my opinion? Ok lol

          • Knypethestokie

            No you have stopped freedom of speech by deleting posts that you didn’t to like or agree with. Carry on with your delusional posts. It’s great fun when we play you…..

          • ladyarse

            What part of ‘I haven’t deleted anything’ did you not understand the first time?

          • Knypethestokie

            The part where a post was here and now has gone…..or did you not see that? Just like Arsene!

          • ladyarse

            Well I didn’t delete it so if it’s not there maybe you imagined writing it. Trust me, if you have a look around, you can see quite clearly that I don’t delete comments.

          • Knypethestokie

            I didn’t write it I read it… Anyway you coming up on Sunday?

          • ladyarse

            Yeah, but only if you clean your cave first.

          • Knypethestokie

            The cave is always clean, lively, intimidating but always clean not like the cesspit that is London …..

  • Potter and proud

    Nothing like having a chip on your shoulder. Just remind me how many trophies you have won recently? Arsenal great pedigree in the past but just an also ran in comparison to current big Four teams. Dream on that you will regain your place at the top table. Stoke are happy to survive and remain debt free, your tippy tappy style as left you with nothing of late. Selling Van Persie was the final straw enjoy looking up the table this season!

    • ladyarse

      Yawn

      • Knypethestokie

        Just like watching your shit team.

        • A.Gunner

          A Stoke fan insinuating that Arsenal play boring football – Hilarious!

  • Dave the realist

    Just a few points from a stoke knuckle dragger…we boo everybody not just your mard arses….Ryan did not break your little ducks leg he did it himself with a bit of help from Bentner pulling (cheating) Ryans shirt….you’re turning into a feeder club to the real big clubs…..i hate the arse as much as i hate the shit and thats a lot and would stand naked on the M6 knocking one out if you ever went bust

    • A.Gunner

      Funnily enough, a bit of shirt pulling generally doesn’t result in a broken leg buddy, be a bit hard to blame the injury on Bendtner. Your neanderthal captain was the one that jumped into the challenge recklessly. I love how you have the audacity to complain about shirt pulling after Shawcunt nearly ended a players career.

  • Jones

    Jesus, too many 15 year old kids in London running their pre-installed WordPress blogs from their bedrooms pretending to be the voice of their club. Do Arsenal and any decent fans you may have a favour and keep your tittle tattle for the playground where swapping Pokemon cards headlines your socially deprived life.

  • Jamo

    And we are accused of being boring!
    Not half as boring as this type of regurgitated tripe and it’s sheep like followers!
    Have you got any sense of originality at all?

  • redg

    uh oh the stokies found your blog? how did they manage this. i thought they stuck to cave writings not computer. well congrats ppl of stoke (mordor) i guess.

    • Knypethestokie

      Tarquin, get back to Percival and get some rest. Arsene needs you there on Sunday….

  • SeddonStandViewer

    Are you lot going to turn up and give us a game this year? Only so long you can hide behind our brand of football before serious questions need to be asked of your fibre and mettle.

    There’s a reason you haven’t won anything for years.

    • ladyarse

      If you learn *how* to play football, we’ll play you at football.

      • Knypethestokie

        11 men v 11 boys played with a football on a pitch..that is football.

        • A.Gunner

          Stoke players aren’t men, they’re ogres with no footballing talent, just being tall and heavy guarantees you a spot in the worst club to ever hit the Premier League.

      • SeddonStandViewer

        How about we play a better game? We punt a few straight balls into the penalty area and laugh when you can’t defend them?

        #DefendinglongballssinceIwas9atschool
        #DoTheWenger
        #BaseballCapForArsene

  • HUTH HUTH

    Would make sense if you wrote about your own side – rather than ours
    Just a rant saying i hate stoke and everyone who lives there not really something new is it?
    Do you think we care less what you think you lick up to the media we dont
    While you keep winning nothing i suppose you will write this drivel over and over again – Ryan shawcross is the devil and so so – you should ask uk gold for a show as they play repeats again and again.
    Crictise if you wish all allowed an opinion – but saying i hate stoke and everyone and thing in it is a joke
    Will you be at the game on Sunday or sitting at home analysing everything so to make excuses if needed

    • ladyarse

      Yes, because I write about Stoke every week. It’s not like we’re playing you this weekend or anything. Moronic comment. You clearly all do care or you wouldn’t bother with this blog and feel the need to defend your team and your precious captain.

      • Knypethestokie

        Pathetic blog with absolute bullshit content about a club that has had the upper hand over you these last few years…..you are the only moaning bitches in the premier league.

        • ladyarse

          Says a bitch moaning….what are you even doing on an Arsenal blog anyway? Ran out of cave drawings to stare at?

          • Knypethestokie

            No just replying to constant bullshit by moaning arse bitches..

    • ladyarse

      …also I’m not the one on a Stoke blog so who cares about who here?

  • stokie john

    arsenal is not a real english club anymore , would be better off in france , oh and dont forget to take your dispicable manager with you. Its hard to beleive that we now dislike you lot even more than the shit but your clubs behaviour over the last few years has deserved it. Ramsey down injured and all your players could think of was to raise their collective hands waving imaginary red cards while our own player Whelan thought it better to attend to him , you should be ashamed .

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  • Potter-in-Peace

    I genuinely hope it is civilised on Sunday. I am passionate about my team & I for one respect other fans who I know love their team. I hope we give you a hard but fair game + hopefully get a point or 3. I for one will welcome Arsenal (Manager, Team & Fans) in the right way. Best wishes for the season.

    • ladyarse

      Appreciate that. Hard and fair, won’t get any arguments from me if that’s how it goes :)

  • MysticalDescent

    The interesting thing about the Stoke Arsenal game is that it is not just a clash of opposing footballing styles (both of which are perfectly valid), but a clash of completely opposite outlooks on the spirit of the game, sport and society.

    Arsenal are very much the modern day club. Everything about them is like the X-Factor, or Big Brother. Everything is a cause for hysteria, public grieving and indignity. There is a witch-hunt associated with every incident, blame must be placed and the alleged culprit hounded for the rest of their days. Phrases such as ‘the slightest of touches’ are used to justify blatant diving, players are encouraged to surround referees and the manager blatantly lies to the press on a routine basis. Wenger’s comments in the press with regards to Ramsey were not about Ramsey or Shawcross; they were about him getting a few more decisions in big games and getting more free-kicks. If you like stop-start football punctuated by constant free kicks, diving, injury feigning and hysterics, Arsenal are the club for you. The club embraces globalisation. Little regard is given to local supporters, as Arsenal prefer to focus their efforts on marketing the club in the USA.

    Stoke, meanwhile, are as traditional as it is possible to be. They are, of course, the oldest and consequently most historically significant club in the league. In fact, there are only ten other clubs in the entire Football League who can claim to share the same level of history. The players are honest, they believe in hard but fair play and maintain the old fashioned ‘stiff upper lip’. In the 1970s, Stoke=on-Trent born Stoke City legend Denis Smith suffered five broken legs, four broken noses, a cracked ankle, a broken collar bone, a chipped spine, several broken fingers, several broken toes and over 100 stitches – all on separate occasions, of course. He was revered by Stoke supporters and not one jot of fuss was made with regards to those injuries. Denis manned up and carried on. That same attitude runs through the club today. The manager actively instructs his players not to dive. Jermaine Pennant performed an atrocious dive in his first game for the club, resulting in the manager giving him a tremendous dressing down and preventing Pennant from performing similar antics. The club is run on a local basis for the people of Stoke-on-Trent. Being the oldest club in the league and being riddled with tradition can be a bit of a burden, giving the club high standards to live up to, but they manage to do so admirably. They stand up for all of the game’s traditional roots and I, for one, applaud that.

    Whose side you take depends on what you want the future of football to be. I know who I’ll be cheering on.

  • ruts66

    Never once have I heard a word of complaint from ManUre or Chelski about coming to Stoke. They man up, get on with it and (usually) win. I would imagine in private Adams, Keown and Co must shudder at what their beloved club has been reduced to under Arsene. Great football (at times), I grant you, but utterly spineless when it comes to a proper old-fashioned battle on the pitch. The very battling spirit a once proud Arsenal so prided itself upon before a certain Frenchman appeared. You’ve been making excuses ever since…

  • rvp who?

    you’re all pathetic…arsenal and stoke are destined not to get along and the sooner you all realise that, the sooner we can all just get back to enjoying what is set to be an eventful match down at the brittania. Btw, i do feel the booing of ramsey (and any footballer for that matter) was and is a disgrace. that again was sour aspect of an otherwise enjobale game towards the backend of last season. please dont ridicule me for my comment :)

  • stokey789

    thought it was a decent article until the last few paragraphs, you obviously don’t know the motives for what the stoke fans do so don’t comment on them

  • Puppyguts

    the most disturbing thing about you stoke fans is how you play down the ramsey incident and use it as a weakness to somehow justify your twisted views, you lot should have some dignity and stop posting on AFC blogs all your doing is disgracing your club further.

  • stokie zac

    Were stoke city we’ll play how we want mate! And we boo ramsey because he wouldnt accept shawcross’ apology so get your facts right dickhead!

    • puppyguts

      this comment sums up exactly what you lot are all about; boo a player for daring to hate a man that almost ended their career with a shit tackle.

  • bigredroo

    ironically called the potters but don’t have a pot to piss in…

  • http://www.facebook.com/alex.shirley1 Alex Shirley

    At least Stoke realise they cant play like Barca and play to their strengths, as opposed to arsenal who for the last five years have been trying and failing to play ‘nice football’ how many cup finals did you play in last year you Cockney morons?

    • A.Gunner

      How many points did you get last year you Northern monkeys?

  • Guna

    I never knew so many Stoke fans Love reading Arsenal blogs! lol, no wonder they get so excited when afc comes to their little town.. they feel honoured to be on the same pitch.. rightly so.

  • Arsehole Whinger

    Hard and Fair, does that include headbutting golakeepers then? Arsenal fans are the most deluded myopic two-faced fuckwanks on the planet bar none.

  • http://twitter.com/jeanylucky Jean-Luc Thiébaut

    I would fucking *love it* if we stick 5 past them tomorrow.

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